John Keats Forum

by **Saturn** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:31 pm

**Opens envelope**

"^^Okay, and the award for most provocative first post goes to..."

That is not the way to endear yourself to anyone on your first post.

ChildeHarold80 don't have a cow dude :roll:

We're only having a discussion, you know a jest, a conversation, one of those things where not everything is serious.

This is like a coffee shop, not a University lecture hall.
:roll:

Sure we have serious discussions sometimes but not all the time.
I don't get where you came up with the idea that anyone was associating Keats with astrology. If you read the whole thread there are many twists and turns and people go from idea to the next, you know how conversations happen...

You are very welcome to this site and I look forward to reading your views but lighten up dude

Don't take everything so seriously.

by **fleshyniteshade** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:00 pm

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half way down.

by **Saturn** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:27 pm

fleshyniteshade wrote:http://secure.ultracart.com/catalog/bbco/classics/index.html

half way down.

Are you referring to this?

I saw a copy of that book in a second-hand book store once and regretted I never bought it, the next time I went in it was gone.

by **AsphodelElysium** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:25 pm

Thanks Saturn! ChildeHarold80 welcome to the forum. Saturn is right you know, its just conversation and your opinion is welcome along with the rest. Just bear in mind this isn't a rigid environment.

by **Saturn** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:09 pm

I hope not.

I have endeavoured to cultivate a somewhat whimsical Regency-dandy air to this site since my succession to the Keatsian Empire.

This place used to be dry as dust you know. I like to think I've lightened it up a bit.

I make no apologies for that.

Serious intellectual debate still goes on here at times, and you can find that in the Poems, Odes and Plays and the Life and Letters sections.

by **AsphodelElysium** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:13 pm

I, and it seems fortunately, was not familiar with this site before the kingship of Lord Saturn. :wink:

But I have been extremely happy with my experiences here so I thank you again. You've done a wonderful job with the site and atmosphere thereof. I plug the forum every chance I get (i.e. in conversation, in my blog, in bulletins) and am proud to do so.

by **Saturn** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:21 pm

Oh thank you

That is very much appreciated many thanks!!!

And do not call me Lord!!

My full title is His Most High, Illustrious Noble and Invicicble Imperator Stephanus Ioannes Paulus Saturnus Caesar, Father of His Country, Consul for The Second Time, in the second year of his Tribunicate Power.

And don't you forget it!!!

Sorry, that's a private joke.

This week I've been gorging on the history of the late Roman Empire and been beguiled by the ridiculously long titles of some of the later Roman Emperors. :lol:

^That one's pretty short by the way.

:lol:

by **AsphodelElysium** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:48 pm

*looks solemn* I won't forget your Magnificence, please forgive my blunder.

Are you reading a particular text or a variety?

by **Saturn** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:01 am

^ And bow to your knees and prostrate when you address me!!!

Its a modern work about the fall Of the Western Roman Empire, which attemptsto overturn many of the prevailing myths that have built up over the centuries about its eventual collapse in the late fifth century.

Sounds exciting stuff eh?

I'm such a geek. I read dense Greek philosophy and dry Roman history for fun!!

Anyway I really have to stop de-railing threads like this but I'm in a playfully manic mood ce soir.

Continue with the thread my dear subjects... :wink:

by **Saturn** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:24 am

Welcome Fnord.

As I said before everyone's views are welcome but there is no need to go off and criticise everyone else like that, especially not on a first post.

I wouldn't walk up to a group of strangers and interrupt their conversation by putting my own view like that.

I know this is not quite the same but that's how I look at it.

This is a public forum and everyone can join in but with this maxim in mind:

Wordsworth wrote: Wisdom is ofttimes nearer when we stoop than when we soar.

I'm pretty laid back and so are everyone else here. There's no need to take things so seriously as he/she did.

I'm afraid he/she won't be back.

Maybe I've scared him/her off

That was not my intention.

by **dks** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:17 am

ChildeHarold80 wrote:I hope Malia, Saturn, and AsphodelElysium are aware that, since the signs of the Zodiac were drawn up in the second century A.D. by Ptolemy (the same infallible authority behind the Ptolemaic system which said that the Earth was at the center of the universe), the earth's rotational axis has shifted by some 30 degrees. Thus, the signs commonly used in horoscopes are off by at least a month. They are also insufficient: there should be 13, rather than 12.

In any case, there is absolutely no evidence that the positions of the planets at the time of one's birth have any effect whatsoever on one's personality or fate. By what mechanism, I ask you, could information be related from planet to earthling? Gravity, at such distances, is far too weak to be relevant. All planets, including earth, shine by reflected sunlight, so light is out of the question.

Finally, it is demeaning to arbitrarily divide humanity into twelve separate categories. Is there a substantial difference between asserting differences in temperament between two persons, just because one was born in June and the other in November, and asserting that blacks and whites are inherently different because of their skin colors?

I must state my opinion in full. I believe it is shameful to associate the name and legacy of a great man like Keats with this facile superstition.

...mmm, I'm betting you're a Scorpio!!

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